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mark kelly is being asked questions by the panel. >> possibly been in the national instant background check system about him that would have prevented him from buying a gun through a background check. that's part of the solution. the other problem, let's say he was denied, denied the purchase of the gun which he purchased in november of 2010, it would have been very easy for him to go to a gun show and purchase a gun without a background check. so you know, there are several things that need to be done and in my opinion and in gabby's opinion, this is one of the most important things we must do to prevent criminals, terrorists and the mentally ill from having easy access to guns. closing the gun show loophole and requiring private sellers to require a background check before they transfer a gun is -- i mean, for us, i can't think of something that would make our country safer than doing just that. >> thank you. >> and mr. lapierre, in 1999 you testified by the house judiciary committee and you testified quote, nobody is more committed than we are to keeping guns out of criminals hands
mark kelly is being asked questions by the panel. >> possibly been in the national instant background check system about him that would have prevented him from buying a gun through a background check. that's part of the solution. the other problem, let's say he was denied, denied the purchase of the gun which he purchased in november of 2010, it would have been very easy for him to go to a gun show and purchase a gun without a background check. so you know, there are several things that...
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kelly o'donnell has more. >> reporter: per gift of speech is a distance memory said her husband mark kelly, yet, gabby giffords halting words. >> too many children. >> reporter: here as a survivor of the tucson assassination attempt which left her partially blind and partially paralyzed. >> you must act, be bold, be courageous. >> reporter: they are both gun owners and they want positive expand sales to make it harder for criminals and the mentally im to get weapons. >> my wife would not be sitting in this seat. she would not have been sitting here today if we had stronger background checks. >>> of all the gun related ideas on the table, democrats believe universal background checks has the best chance politically. >> stop them from the original purchase. you missed that point completely. and i think it's basic. >> senator, i think you missed -- >> reporter: the nra says adding new laws would hit ordinary citizens, not criminals. >> that was kelly o'donnell. >>> this is the year for immigration reform that, is president obama's hope. he laid out his platform and timetable. >>> we kno
kelly o'donnell has more. >> reporter: per gift of speech is a distance memory said her husband mark kelly, yet, gabby giffords halting words. >> too many children. >> reporter: here as a survivor of the tucson assassination attempt which left her partially blind and partially paralyzed. >> you must act, be bold, be courageous. >> reporter: they are both gun owners and they want positive expand sales to make it harder for criminals and the mentally im to get...
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. >> jimmy, the senate hearing witness list, folks from both sides, pro safety, mark kelly, james johnson, a chief of police in baltimore and chairman of the national law enforcement partnership. those on the other side, wayne lapierre, nicholas johnson and gayle trotter but as i understand it, you heard there's some concern that there's a slant to those witnesses that they're more gun advocates than those who want to see some safety legislation put in place. >> well, that's right. i think that you have a more than handful senate democrats and not liberals, per se, pretty upset about the fact that chairman leahy of vermont who's the chairman stacked the witness list against those or in favor if you will of those who are against gun control and so i know that today senator dianne feinste feinstein, second on the judiciary committee and has assurance to have another hearing without a witness list that will be stacked or stacked the other way, if you will. i mean, and so i think that you have members -- if you look at the dias, you have senators of big snams, new york, california, illinois,
. >> jimmy, the senate hearing witness list, folks from both sides, pro safety, mark kelly, james johnson, a chief of police in baltimore and chairman of the national law enforcement partnership. those on the other side, wayne lapierre, nicholas johnson and gayle trotter but as i understand it, you heard there's some concern that there's a slant to those witnesses that they're more gun advocates than those who want to see some safety legislation put in place. >> well, that's right....
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lapierrre will be testifying during a hearing that will include mark kelly husband to gabrielle giffords who was shot by one of the deranged criminals who had all too easy access to a gun. joining me now is virginia tech shooting survivor, collin goddard. thank you so much for being here this evening. >> thanks for having me. >> john: is this a new low, do you think attacking the father of a child who was killed at sandy hook? >> there's really no place for anything like this in this discussion or debate. we can be disagreeable. we can disagree without being disagreeable, excuse me. saying things like that reflect poorly on gun owners and men as human beings. >> john: this might be the new m.o. for the hard core pro gun supporters. i'm not talking about the reasonable nra members the majority of whom support the majority of the president's proposed revisions in the laws. but attack the victims and hope they won't speak up. now you've done a lot of work in this field with the brady campaign. have you been the victim of any of the personal attacks? >> unfortunately, i have. i've had a lot
lapierrre will be testifying during a hearing that will include mark kelly husband to gabrielle giffords who was shot by one of the deranged criminals who had all too easy access to a gun. joining me now is virginia tech shooting survivor, collin goddard. thank you so much for being here this evening. >> thanks for having me. >> john: is this a new low, do you think attacking the father of a child who was killed at sandy hook? >> there's really no place for anything like this...
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giffords' husband mark kelly cofounded the organization with her. he gave powerful testimony as well today. >> we believe wholly and completely in the second amendment and that it confers upon all americans the right to own a firearm for protection, collection, and recreation. we take that right very seriously, and we would never, ever give it up just like gabby would never relinquish her gun and i would never relinquish mine. but rights demand responsibility. and this right does not extend to terrorists. it does not extend to criminals. and it does not extend to the mentally ill. >> one more thing i want you to see. following this morning's testimony, gabby giffords and mark kelly met with president obama in the oval office. so david corn, i show you all that and i ask how can the momentum to the extent that momentum exists right now on the president and the white house side, how can it be maintain snd how do you maintain that level of emotional testimony? >> well, it was quite an emotional moment watching gabby giffords get up there courageously a
giffords' husband mark kelly cofounded the organization with her. he gave powerful testimony as well today. >> we believe wholly and completely in the second amendment and that it confers upon all americans the right to own a firearm for protection, collection, and recreation. we take that right very seriously, and we would never, ever give it up just like gabby would never relinquish her gun and i would never relinquish mine. but rights demand responsibility. and this right does not...
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mark kelly is in "the situation room." come on in, mark. we're going to talk about what happened today and where you stand on all of this right after this commercial break. ...tax time can ofbe...well...taxing. so right now we'll give you... ...$10 off any turbo tax deluxe level software or higher! find thousands of big deals now... ...at officemax. delicious. but say i press a few out flat... add some beef sloppy joe sauce... and cheese fold it all up and boom! i just made an unbeatable unsloppy joe pillsbury grands biscuits. let the making begin. until i got a job in the big apple. becoming a fulltime indoor cat wasn't easy for atti. but he had purina cat chow indoor. he absolutely loved it. and i knew he was getting everything he needed to stay healthy indoors. and after a couple of weeks, i knew we were finally home! [ female announcer ] purina cat chow indoor. and for a delicious way to help maintain a healthy weight, try new purina cat chow healthy weight. when the doctor told me that i could smoke for the first week... i'm like...yea
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mark kelly yesterday. >> i'm a strong supporter of the second amendment as anybody on this panel. my wife would not be sitting in this seat, she would not have been sitting here today if we had stronger background checks. >> stephanie: the "washington post" did a piece perhaps the most important moment in yesterday's senate hearings when mark kelly directly confronted wayne lapierre over the shooting of his wife and another one involving dick durbin. lapierres argument was completely unmasked. he repeatedly voiced the talking point there is no need to expand the background system because criminals don't cooperate. kelly said he said his plan was to assassinate my wife. but because of the gaps in the mental health system those -- we would have likely failed a background check. if we require private sellers to complete a background check and we get those records into the system we will prevent these kinds of crimes. good for him. mark kelley again yesterday. >> he did not have access to a high capacity magazine and the same thing happened christina tailor green would be alive today.
mark kelly yesterday. >> i'm a strong supporter of the second amendment as anybody on this panel. my wife would not be sitting in this seat, she would not have been sitting here today if we had stronger background checks. >> stephanie: the "washington post" did a piece perhaps the most important moment in yesterday's senate hearings when mark kelly directly confronted wayne lapierre over the shooting of his wife and another one involving dick durbin. lapierres argument was...
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they go with wayne la pierre who is bombastic and strident and following gabbie gifford and especially mark kelly, her husband who said that if there were background-- that gabby gifford would not have been testifying that day. i think there is a good chance on high capacity magazines. i mean when you've got military style assault weapons and high capacity magazines, they're intended for one person. and that is to inflict as much damage on human beings in as short as time as possible. that is what they are there for. i thought the president showed some presence when he talked about people grow og up with rifles. a 10-year-old receiving a rifle from his father. that there is not the demonizing of the other side, of people who have firearms as part of their family and tradition. i thought that show a certain maturity and i hope a political awareness. >> woodruff: we know the president is going to keep talking about this. he is due to go to minnesota on monday to talk about this, the gun issue again. david, you mentioned immigration. there was, you the bipartisan group of senators come out thi
they go with wayne la pierre who is bombastic and strident and following gabbie gifford and especially mark kelly, her husband who said that if there were background-- that gabby gifford would not have been testifying that day. i think there is a good chance on high capacity magazines. i mean when you've got military style assault weapons and high capacity magazines, they're intended for one person. and that is to inflict as much damage on human beings in as short as time as possible. that is...
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they go with wayne la pierre who is bombastic and strident and following gabbie gifford and especially mark kelly her husband who said that if there were background-- that gabby gifford would not have been testifying that day. i think there is a good chance on high capacity magazines. i mean when you've got military style assault weapons and high capacity magazines, they're intended for one person. and that is to inflict as much damage on human beings in as short as time as possible. that is what they are there for. i thought the president showed some presence when he talked about people grow og up with rifles. a 10-year-old receiving a rifle from his father. that there is not the demonizeing of the other side of people who have firearms as part of their family and tradition. i thought that show a certain maturity and i hope a political awareness. >> woodruff: we know the president is going to keep talking about this. he is due to go to minnesota on monday to talk about this the gun issue again. david, you mentioned immigration. there was you the bipartisan group of senators come out this w
they go with wayne la pierre who is bombastic and strident and following gabbie gifford and especially mark kelly her husband who said that if there were background-- that gabby gifford would not have been testifying that day. i think there is a good chance on high capacity magazines. i mean when you've got military style assault weapons and high capacity magazines, they're intended for one person. and that is to inflict as much damage on human beings in as short as time as possible. that is...
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wednesday on c-span, a senate judiciary committee meeting on gun violence and mark kelly, the husband of deborah different -- gabrielle gifford will be there. also the national rifle association ceo will be there, live tomorrow morning at 10:00 on c-span. >> all of us worked hard for our cause is way before we got to the white house. the white house just was an enormous push up. i think the ladies would agree that the day before you are married to the president-elect, nobody gives a darn what you say. the day after he is the president-elect, people think you are brilliant and your cause is very good. [laughter] that helps. [applause] >> the new original series," it is produced with the white house historical association, season one begins president's day, february 18, at 9:00 p.m. eastern. >> 3 of the moderators of the 2012 presidential and vice- presidential debate spoke last night in washington. they talked about how they prepared and how twitter and social media influence to the debate and how they thought the candidates performed, from the national press club, this is one hour, 20
wednesday on c-span, a senate judiciary committee meeting on gun violence and mark kelly, the husband of deborah different -- gabrielle gifford will be there. also the national rifle association ceo will be there, live tomorrow morning at 10:00 on c-span. >> all of us worked hard for our cause is way before we got to the white house. the white house just was an enormous push up. i think the ladies would agree that the day before you are married to the president-elect, nobody gives a darn...
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in fact her husband mark kelly broke the news of today's gunfire in phoenix to everybody at that hearing. the national rifle association's executive vice president wane lap peer also testified there. we will hear from both sides coming up inside fox report. first though a u.s. senator denies any role in a case involving hookers, a private plane, and a wealthy eye doctor. fbi agents raided that doctor's clinic last night in south florida. sea long-time friend and donor to the democratic senator bob menendez of new jersey. he is the chairman of a powerful foreign relations committee. it's still not clear whether the raid involved the senator but it would not be the first time the two men have been linked. back in november, the conservative web site the daily caller interviewed prostitutes who said the senator paid them for sex in the dominican republic. the article claimed the senator flew to that country on the doctor's private jet. late today the senator's office acknowledged that he has traveled on that jet, but says that he paid for the trips properly. his office released a statement t
in fact her husband mark kelly broke the news of today's gunfire in phoenix to everybody at that hearing. the national rifle association's executive vice president wane lap peer also testified there. we will hear from both sides coming up inside fox report. first though a u.s. senator denies any role in a case involving hookers, a private plane, and a wealthy eye doctor. fbi agents raided that doctor's clinic last night in south florida. sea long-time friend and donor to the democratic senator...
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gabby giffords' husband, mark kelly. >> and that's the difference. other victims are now speaking up, and to see gabby yesterday and her husband by her side talking about this, these were strong nra supporters, and yet they see what can be done. >> i think -- >> 20 dead first graders -- >> go ahead, ron. >> i ws going to say in closing, 20 dead first graders has a way of concentrating the mind. >> right. >> it's a serious conversation. it's an american conversation. thank you, congresswoman carolyn mccarthy of new york and ron reagan. >>> we have one more note about the epidemic of gun violence in this country. yesterday we told you about 15-year-old hadiya pendleton of chicago who was fatally shot in what may have been a gang turf war after having performed in washington with her high school band for the inaugural music festival. it all happened since then. we learned in 2008 she was featured in a video speaking out against gun violence. here is part of that video. >> so many children are fearing gangs, and it's your job as students to say no to gan
gabby giffords' husband, mark kelly. >> and that's the difference. other victims are now speaking up, and to see gabby yesterday and her husband by her side talking about this, these were strong nra supporters, and yet they see what can be done. >> i think -- >> 20 dead first graders -- >> go ahead, ron. >> i ws going to say in closing, 20 dead first graders has a way of concentrating the mind. >> right. >> it's a serious conversation. it's an american...
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our first witness is mark kelly. he's -- our first witness is mark can kelly, retired astronaut and co-founded americans for potential solutions. thsz an advocacy that promotes to prevent gun violence and protect responsible gun ownership, with his wife, former congresswoman gabrielle giffords. please go ahead, sir. >> thank you chairman leahy and ranking member grassry for inviting me today. i look forward to an instructive dialogue with your committeeant want to take the opportunity to congratulate gabby's friend jeff lake on new role as arizona's junior senator. as you know, our family has been immeasurableably affected by gun violence. gabby's gift for speech is a distant gg? news breaks to yet another tragic shooting. after 20 kids and six of their teachers were gunned down in their classrooms at sandy hook elementary, we said this time must be different. something needs to be done. we're simply two reasonable americans who have said enough. on january 8th of 2011, a young man walked up to gabby at her constitue
our first witness is mark kelly. he's -- our first witness is mark can kelly, retired astronaut and co-founded americans for potential solutions. thsz an advocacy that promotes to prevent gun violence and protect responsible gun ownership, with his wife, former congresswoman gabrielle giffords. please go ahead, sir. >> thank you chairman leahy and ranking member grassry for inviting me today. i look forward to an instructive dialogue with your committeeant want to take the opportunity to...
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our first witness is mark kelly. he's -- our first witness is mark can kelly, retired astronaut and co-founded americans for potential solutions. thsz an advocacy that promotes to prevent gun violence and protect responsible gun ownership, with his wife, former congresswoman gabrielle giffords. please go ahead, sir. >> thank you chairman leahy and ranking member grassry for inviting me today. i look forward to an instructive dialogue with your committeeant want to take the opportunity to congratulate gabby's friend jeff lake on new role as arizona's junior senator. as you know, our family has been immeasurableably affected by gun violence. gabby's gift for speech is a distant memory. she struggles to walk and partially blind. a year ago she left the job she loved, serving the people of arizona. but in the past two years, we have watched gabby's determination and spirit and intel lekt conquer her disabilities. we're speaking to you today as americans. we're a lot like many fellow citizens following this debate about g
our first witness is mark kelly. he's -- our first witness is mark can kelly, retired astronaut and co-founded americans for potential solutions. thsz an advocacy that promotes to prevent gun violence and protect responsible gun ownership, with his wife, former congresswoman gabrielle giffords. please go ahead, sir. >> thank you chairman leahy and ranking member grassry for inviting me today. i look forward to an instructive dialogue with your committeeant want to take the opportunity to...
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giffords and her husband, mark kelly, made an emotional appeal to congress to expand background checks to gun shows and private sales. >> too many children are dying. too many children you must act. be bold. be courageous. >> my wife would not be sitting in this seat. she would not have been sitting here today if we had stronger background checks. >> but the national rifle association chair, wayne lapierre, came out aggressively against background checks, arguing that the legislation which has the best chance in congress will do nothing to stem gun violence. >> my problem with background checks is you're never going to get criminals to go through universal background checks. >> we'll stop them from the original purchase. you miss that point completely. and i think it's basic. >> senator, i think you missed -- >> let there be order! >> and lapierre tried to turn the debate back on the administration. >> drug dealers with guns, gangs with guns, and felons with guns. they're simply not bei ining enforced. the numbers are shocking. in chicago, in one of the worst areas in the country for g
giffords and her husband, mark kelly, made an emotional appeal to congress to expand background checks to gun shows and private sales. >> too many children are dying. too many children you must act. be bold. be courageous. >> my wife would not be sitting in this seat. she would not have been sitting here today if we had stronger background checks. >> but the national rifle association chair, wayne lapierre, came out aggressively against background checks, arguing that the...
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americans are counting on you. >> giffords' husband, mark kelly, also testified. so did nra head juan wayne la p and also the chief of baltimore county, the chairman of the national law enforcement partnership to prevent gun violence. he joins us right now. chief, you are really on the front lines of this gun debate so i want to ask you, if you could get one thing, change one thing when it comes to guns and gun violence, what's the one measure you would choose? >> well, it's definitely going to be a universal background check. i think most in law enforcement would agree that a universal background check certainly would make it more difficult for people who are trying to get weapons, keep them out of their hands. in fact from 1994 to 2009, nearly two million prohibited purchases were stopped. so we know this is going to work. obviously increasing penalties for those who try to straw purchase for someone else, i really think this will ve a tremendous impact. >> so wayne la pierre of the nra doesn't agree with you. at the hearing yesterday he said that criminals will
americans are counting on you. >> giffords' husband, mark kelly, also testified. so did nra head juan wayne la p and also the chief of baltimore county, the chairman of the national law enforcement partnership to prevent gun violence. he joins us right now. chief, you are really on the front lines of this gun debate so i want to ask you, if you could get one thing, change one thing when it comes to guns and gun violence, what's the one measure you would choose? >> well, it's...
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on the other side mark kelly, gabby giffords's husband former astronaut, and sheriff captain james johnson from baltimore county in full uniform. both kelly and johnson spoke about the need for background checks especially captain johnson saying -- telling the senator, stand with law enforcement. i'm here representing ah law enforcement officers across this country. we are out gunned today. we need the guns. people should not have easy access to them, stand with us for banning assault weapons. they have supported the feinstein bill and for background checks. but then the other side got up -- this woman gail trotter said that every mother needs an ak-15 in her home to protect her kids with all of the high-capacity magazines she can get. this guy coppel said you can't have background checks because then the government will know where every gun is and they will come to your door and seize them. and then wayne lapierre, their whole solution is let's make every school an armed camp. >> it's time to throw an immediate blanket of security around our children. about a third of our schools right no
on the other side mark kelly, gabby giffords's husband former astronaut, and sheriff captain james johnson from baltimore county in full uniform. both kelly and johnson spoke about the need for background checks especially captain johnson saying -- telling the senator, stand with law enforcement. i'm here representing ah law enforcement officers across this country. we are out gunned today. we need the guns. people should not have easy access to them, stand with us for banning assault weapons....
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i spoke to mark kelly yesterday about his testimony. he said that we're both -- he and congresswoman giffords, are moderate gun owners. they own guns. they have been supporters of gun rights for a long time. he also said that he hopes that they can do something about the safety of our kids and our communities. one tidbit he told me is that he and gabby giffords used to go together to the nra practice range just outside of washington. he almost joined the nra himself but never got around to it. that's their perspective. and then of course on the other side of the witness table the last person we will hear from will be wayne lapierre who will say a lot of familiar things that we've heard from him over the years but even more specifically since the shootings at newtown he's going to say in fact his prepared remarks say that he's going to say law abiding gun owners will not accept the blame for acts of violence of deranged criminals. expect him to be as combative and defiant for people who own guns as he has in the past. >> i'm sitting here
i spoke to mark kelly yesterday about his testimony. he said that we're both -- he and congresswoman giffords, are moderate gun owners. they own guns. they have been supporters of gun rights for a long time. he also said that he hopes that they can do something about the safety of our kids and our communities. one tidbit he told me is that he and gabby giffords used to go together to the nra practice range just outside of washington. he almost joined the nra himself but never got around to it....
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kelly yeah i disagree with mark kelly the fact of the matter is this whether you have a five seven fifteen he would have pulled off at least five of those shots now with odds going to be that he might have hit five for five three four five we don't know but for the comments that i gave to believe that they cut bait am just another magazine size and that's going to change any deaths it's just not not statistical so i think if you look for example new york city police if i remember correctly they typically have fifteen rounds and there's i mean there's nothing magic but there's they have fifteen rounds which seems to say well why do some people need fifteen and other people need ten and who's a better marksman such because i'll tell you those cops but i'll tell you this i think the trend is right now those of you who are pushing to say well let's not get down to ten if you got that then you'd say let's knock it down to seven then five business or related to seven or nine that barney fife used to keep in his pocket in the andy griffith show works quite well for him ok senator durbin asked la
kelly yeah i disagree with mark kelly the fact of the matter is this whether you have a five seven fifteen he would have pulled off at least five of those shots now with odds going to be that he might have hit five for five three four five we don't know but for the comments that i gave to believe that they cut bait am just another magazine size and that's going to change any deaths it's just not not statistical so i think if you look for example new york city police if i remember correctly they...
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also mark kelly, gabby give order's husband is going to be there. >> the law enforcement issue is not being addressed. 35% less convictions on guns since the bush administration. here i'm back on bush. and also 76,000 people last year were denied on background checks denied guns. 62 referred for prosecution. they have a point. more laws is that going to cover this thing? and frankly, we're not addressing the mental issues of this. we're putting up the ban date without any adhesive by creating more laws. >> look, it's always difficult to pass gun control laws in congress in the united states. >> even after what happened in connecticut. >> but i think there's a possibility you get more on the background check side. gun shows, that's the biggest freaking loophole. got to solve that problem. seems to me, who needs 20 bullet magazines to shoot a deer? sorry. don't think so. >> we will not solve all the problems here. but hopefully congress and the president can get something done. thanks so much for coming in. we'll be right back after the break. >>> talker
also mark kelly, gabby give order's husband is going to be there. >> the law enforcement issue is not being addressed. 35% less convictions on guns since the bush administration. here i'm back on bush. and also 76,000 people last year were denied on background checks denied guns. 62 referred for prosecution. they have a point. more laws is that going to cover this thing? and frankly, we're not addressing the mental issues of this. we're putting up the ban date without any adhesive by...
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our first witness is mark kelly. he is a, first witness is mark kelly. he is a retired astronaut in u.s. navy captain. captain kelly recently cofounded americans for responsible solutions. this is an advocacy group that promotes solutions to prevent gun violence, and protect responsible gun ownership. did it with his wife, former congresswoman gabrielle giffords. so, captain kelly, please go ahead, sir. >> thank you, chairman leahy and ranking member grassley for inviting me here today ? . >> we are simply two reasonable americans who have said, enough. on january 8th of 2011 a young man walked up to gabby at her constituent event in tucson, leveled his gun and shot her through the head. he then turned down the line and continued firing. in 15 seconds he emptied his magazine. it contained 33 bullets and there were 33 wounds. as the shooter attempted to reload he fumbled. a woman grabbed the next magazine, and others restrained him. gabby was the first victim. christina taylor green, nine years old, born on 9-11-2001 was shot with the 13th bullet or after
our first witness is mark kelly. he is a, first witness is mark kelly. he is a retired astronaut in u.s. navy captain. captain kelly recently cofounded americans for responsible solutions. this is an advocacy group that promotes solutions to prevent gun violence, and protect responsible gun ownership. did it with his wife, former congresswoman gabrielle giffords. so, captain kelly, please go ahead, sir. >> thank you, chairman leahy and ranking member grassley for inviting me here today ?...
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kelly. kelly said he and giffords represented millions of gun owners to support new restrictions in the aftermath of the sandy hook massacre. >> we are both gun owners and we take that right and responsibilities that come with it very seriously. we watched with horror when the news breaks to yet another tragic shooting. after 20 kids and six of their teachers were gunned down in their classrooms at sandy hook elementary, we said, "this time must be different. something needs to be done." we are simply two reasonable americans to of said, "enough." >> also testifying was the nra head wayne lapierre, who has vocally opposed any gun control measures, including the assault weapons ban. he sparred with senator dick durbin of illinois over the issue of whether background checks -- tighter background checks could to terror and violence. go,f it imillion if you let thm you're not preventing them from getting to the next crime scene. >> that is the point. the criminals will not go to purchase the gun
kelly. kelly said he and giffords represented millions of gun owners to support new restrictions in the aftermath of the sandy hook massacre. >> we are both gun owners and we take that right and responsibilities that come with it very seriously. we watched with horror when the news breaks to yet another tragic shooting. after 20 kids and six of their teachers were gunned down in their classrooms at sandy hook elementary, we said, "this time must be different. something needs to be...
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kelly just disagree with mark kelly the fact of the matter is this whether you have a five seven fifteen he would have pulled off at least five of those shots now with odds going to be that he might have hit five for five three four five we don't know but for the comments that i gave the believe that they cut bait i am just another magazine size and that's going to change any deaths it's just not not statistical so i think if you look for example new york city police if i remember correctly they typically have fifteen rounds in there's i mean there's nothing magic but there's they have fifteen rounds which seems to say well why do some people need fifteen and other people need ten and who's a better marksman such because i'll tell you those cops but i'll tell you this i think the trend is right now those of you who are pushing to say well let's knock it down to ten if you got that then you'd say let's knock it down to seven then five business or related to seven or nine. barney fife used to keep in his pocket in the andy griffith show works quite well for him ok senator durbin asked a lo
kelly just disagree with mark kelly the fact of the matter is this whether you have a five seven fifteen he would have pulled off at least five of those shots now with odds going to be that he might have hit five for five three four five we don't know but for the comments that i gave the believe that they cut bait i am just another magazine size and that's going to change any deaths it's just not not statistical so i think if you look for example new york city police if i remember correctly...
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mark kelly gabby gifford's husband will introduce the bill to allow all school vs. an armed presence on campus. it could be a resource office or staffer who goes through the same training. >> a look at whose talking former secretary of state colon powell made the news when he was at the republican party. bill o'reilly wanted to find out on "the factor." >> this is a rude question. i am sorry to have to ask it. you ready? this is the scuttlebutt in washington on the republican side. your angry with the republicans a major look back at the weapons of mass destruction deal burg the e during the iraq war. i don't believe that's what's motivating you. i think you are a severe g-- si guy. this is a round that cheney and these guys didn't like that. no use for cheney no use for the war. that is a bunch of nonsense. >> i took the information we all had from the intelligence committee and when i went to the u.n. it was with the assurance of the cia the information i had was correct. mr. cheney used the information, mr. president did all of the commanders. the congress voted
mark kelly gabby gifford's husband will introduce the bill to allow all school vs. an armed presence on campus. it could be a resource office or staffer who goes through the same training. >> a look at whose talking former secretary of state colon powell made the news when he was at the republican party. bill o'reilly wanted to find out on "the factor." >> this is a rude question. i am sorry to have to ask it. you ready? this is the scuttlebutt in washington on the...
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kelly yeah i disagree with mark kelly the fact of the matter is this whether you have a five seven fifteen he would have pulled off at least five of those shots now with odds going to be that he might have hit five for five three four five we don't know but for the comments that i did they still believe that they cut bait him just another magazine size and that's going to change any deaths it's just not not statistical so i think if you look for example new york city police if i remember correctly they typically have fifteen rounds and there's i mean there's nothing magic but there's they have fifteen rounds which seems to say well why do some people need fifteen and other people need ten and who's a better marksman such because i'll tell you those cops but i'll tell you this i think the trend is right now those of you who are pushing to say well let's knock it down to ten if you've got that then you say let's knock it down to seven then five business or related to seven or nine. barney fife used to keep in his pocket in the andy griffith show it works quite well for him ok senator durbin
kelly yeah i disagree with mark kelly the fact of the matter is this whether you have a five seven fifteen he would have pulled off at least five of those shots now with odds going to be that he might have hit five for five three four five we don't know but for the comments that i did they still believe that they cut bait him just another magazine size and that's going to change any deaths it's just not not statistical so i think if you look for example new york city police if i remember...
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. >> giffords husband mark kelly says expanding background checks should be a top priority but the nra's chief executive yesterday refused to give any ground. >> we know from what happened in tucson that if there was an effective background check which includes having the mental health data and the person's drug use in the case of the tucson shooter into the system and if, in fact, there was no gun show loophole, i would contend he would have had a very difficult time getting a gun. if background checks are good enough for somebody who is a federal firearms licensed dealer like walmart, for instance where i just purchased a gun a couple months ago, a hunting rifle and i had to good through a background check, why isn't that good for other sales? >> my problem with background checks is you'll never get criminals to go through universal background checks. i mean, all the law abiding people. you'll create an enormous federal bureaucracy. >> we're not going to prosecute the bad guys if they do catch one. and none of it makes any sense in the real world. >> that's the point. the criminals won
. >> giffords husband mark kelly says expanding background checks should be a top priority but the nra's chief executive yesterday refused to give any ground. >> we know from what happened in tucson that if there was an effective background check which includes having the mental health data and the person's drug use in the case of the tucson shooter into the system and if, in fact, there was no gun show loophole, i would contend he would have had a very difficult time getting a gun....
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you had had a chance to speak with mark kelly, the husband of gabrielle giffords. he's getting ready to testify tomorrow. what did he say to you? >> reporter: that's right. i spoke with him by phone a short while ago. he said that he and gabby giffords are both gun owners and that he actually thought about joining the nra but never got around to it. when it comes to wayne la peaier, the two have never met but he hopes that they can have a constructive conversation about how to tackle gun violence. two staunch supporters of the second amendment, two very different views on guns. >> they are god given freedoms. they belong to us in the united states of america as our birth right. no government gave them to us and no government can ever take them away. >> i defended the second amendment flying in combat over iraq in kuwait, you know, defending our country. i own a gun. this really isn't about the second amendment. >> reporter: these will be the star witnesses at congresses' first hearing since the shooting in newtown. mark kelly, the husband of gabby giffords who was
you had had a chance to speak with mark kelly, the husband of gabrielle giffords. he's getting ready to testify tomorrow. what did he say to you? >> reporter: that's right. i spoke with him by phone a short while ago. he said that he and gabby giffords are both gun owners and that he actually thought about joining the nra but never got around to it. when it comes to wayne la peaier, the two have never met but he hopes that they can have a constructive conversation about how to tackle gun...
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say if the guy that mark kelly talked about, he was a hair's breadth from shooting an innocent person. the fact is the guy held both of those people on the ground, the assailant and the innocent person, and kept him from reloading the glock with another 33-round clip. did that make a difference? host: diane is in julian, california, democrat. caller: how are you? i did not hear your question? host: we have been asking have your views changed? caller: the question is, it has strengthened my views on gun control. we know that the president is traveling to minnesota today, where they do have. i do not know all the laws in minnesota. i do have relatives there. the president's agenda is to strengthen the background checks, also, a ban on assault weapons, and improve the mental health care system. i have been in law enforcement many years. the men i have worked around, some have never had to use their service revolvers. we are in a different culture now, a different behavior, a different lifetime. i've been around where there have been gang members, hell's angels, you name it, we have it in
say if the guy that mark kelly talked about, he was a hair's breadth from shooting an innocent person. the fact is the guy held both of those people on the ground, the assailant and the innocent person, and kept him from reloading the glock with another 33-round clip. did that make a difference? host: diane is in julian, california, democrat. caller: how are you? i did not hear your question? host: we have been asking have your views changed? caller: the question is, it has strengthened my...
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. >> giffords was joined by her husband mark kelly. he explained why the couple decided to start an organization devoted to gun regulation. >> gabby is one of roughly 100,000 victims of gun violence in america each and every year. one of our messages is simple. thebred and complexity of gun violence is great, but it's not an excuse for inaction. >> president obama would later meet with giffords and kelly at the white house. but the rest of washington has not been as welcoming. nra chief wayne lapierre who's expressed some sympathy for the victims also told the senate he has no interest in collaborating even on laws that restrict the gun access of convicted criminals or the mentally unstable. lapierre resit rated that the nra still opposes basic background check rules. that puts him at odds with the constituency he claims to represent. nine in ten gun owners support background checks. >> let's be honest. background checks will never be universal because criminals will never submit to them. >> many policy makers, however, object to that
. >> giffords was joined by her husband mark kelly. he explained why the couple decided to start an organization devoted to gun regulation. >> gabby is one of roughly 100,000 victims of gun violence in america each and every year. one of our messages is simple. thebred and complexity of gun violence is great, but it's not an excuse for inaction. >> president obama would later meet with giffords and kelly at the white house. but the rest of washington has not been as welcoming....